I missed the name of the irc node.

awesome cartoon.

benkler, layers of communication: content, code, physical.

dude’s got sniffles.

the daily meme. vs stuff that happens over time.

oh, numa numa. I missed that one entirely until I saw the Canada on Strike episode of South Park. vs Rick Astley, rickrolling “barfing into the real world”

oh heck, dylan just spilled coffee on his netbook. 🙁

hamster dance -> LOLcats. adds community. icanhascheeseburger. ceiling cat vs basement cat, a universe emerging. LOLcat bible. can write executables in lolspeak? LOLbama. “yes we can has”

underlying patterns: daily meme, real world emergence, genres

with the internet 24/7, and more important than it used to be. growth of facebook among 25-54. 11% of people on twitter or similar. tools & communities for building memes.

the future?

flaw in layers model: people!

great news: we’re all trashed. (economy) how does recession become boom for internet culture? both supply and demand. lots of bored unemployed people with nothing to do. (hrm.) youtube traffic peaks right after lunch on the workday.

media companies turn to the internet because it’s cheap? books based on internet memes, because they’re cheap.

(I know he’s really excited about all this, but I’m finding it a little freaky/depressing.)

etsy, source of cheap stuff.


comparison of graphs: correlation of DJIA & growth of twitter, vimeo, etsy pageviews. (I wanna see those graphs again more slowly.)

can you hack internet culture? (zombie ninja badgers!) retweeting between similar clusters. “rudimentary language for twitterbots”?! class where you get graded based on how famous you become on the internet. (I find that immensely depressing somehow.) “fame olympics”? gah.

social net neutrality. EPA for the web? (has he connected with zittrain at all?)

q: what about “forwards I get from my grandma?” universe of internet culture that belongs to people above 50. (actually, I’ve gotten a few of those happy love chain letters from folks my age. I think it’s an actual cultural difference, rather than an age difference.)

q (dylan): 3rd model of recursive memes? meme relative reliance on old media. the 4chan paradox: as it gets simpler, culture gets richer. q: age bracket, stuff from the usenet coming back to facebook (25 things), wtf is up with that? internet groundhog day syndrome. (as I think I mentioned, some of that stuff dates back to pen & paper for me.) “before the lol” cats with funny captions from back in the 70s & 80s! web caches everything. rick astley’s on tour again! roflcon is all on

q: did you catch sterling? I heard he was angry. boomers & internet culture? internet culture comes from people who have too much time on their hands. so what happens when huge group retires? clusters of internet that are entirely their own cultures.

q: companies trying to create artificial memes, how does that affect organic meme growth? haven’t been able to achieve “that special sauce” — 4chan saying “do it for the lulz” “never going to find a community around [didn’t hear]” (maybe not: seem to remember stuff in Buying In.)

q: would rather be rickrolled rather than what it replaced! (nsfw) she accidentally created a meme, is there a pattern of what works and what doesn’t? hard question, part of what they’re trying to research.

q: trends in how memes spread (facebook vs twitter vs whatever)? back to the 4chan paradox. slimmer tools. simple memes: single-serving sites. (

q: missed a bunch of stuff, people misinterpreted “meme” as “Me-Me”

q: are the internet-famous persuing it deliberately, or hitting it accidentally. “aggregate things that used to happen on the edges of the society and bring them into the center” in-jokes exploding back into the larger culture.

q: metrics & tools for studying internet memes? project at berkman called media cloud. generate associations between terms.

youth culture in nigeria not so much about drugs or whatever, but 419 scams.